Week 11: Buffalo Bills Post Game Show 11/19/2017

Sunday, November 19th

Schopp and Bulldog with the postgame show from the Buffalo Bills Radio Network.


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Welcome to be post game show. The bills lose to the chargers. 54. To two warning for. The team that fans got a you know because eagerly anticipated always imagined. What would meet in Peterman B. The poor guy. Threw five interceptions in a half. Which is a historically. Inept performance. And one wonders if he'll ever be seen again in an NFL game. This job. This is not something that I use a at all lightly. This feels like a new low in the seventeen year. The performance. Of Peter Meehan the decision to play him. By the first your coach trusting his process all the stuff. It just could not have gone any worse than that. And all right so a few times during the week like I mean even at these clown shoes you know then then this big complicated. Well. Five picks in hill pork passes. By able urged them. It's the worst performance by those statistics. Just generally I guess you could say but you have to use the stupid statistic is the worst performance. By NFL quarterback. Since the merger. Not just rookies and not just bill's. Tyrod Taylor. Went into this game with three interceptions for the season two which bounced off Charles clay. And you know got criticized all the time and got pulled because he didn't do enough well. And his replacement has a chance. To throw more interceptions for the season and then Taylor even if Taylor plays the rest of the season. Which he. Kinda passed through an hour right. I don't know how you can go back to back after that I mean you'll see I'm really really curious. Because the way forward here for McDermott is going to be very interest and how he handles. This news conference and I have read a few minutes. And tomorrow. And his team which we won't really know what he says that the team adult they're gonna show you who's video's been talking locker room after. After this on the to do that after any losses just one match. Peter man. Six. For 1466. Yards and five interceptions. With no touchdowns Taylor and relief fifteen for 25158. A touchdown and he rushing touchdown. Was Shawn McCoy thirteen for 114 I mean some great moments. Had a touchdown. Rush and reception in this game. LA rivers forty for 32 to 51 and two Keenan Allen twelve for 159 into anything you wanted. Melvin Gordon Tony for Brady and 16 turnovers to none there's your culture. The bills who were setting in seeing paces for takeaways and not. Committing turnovers. The other shoe has drops. And they were minus six today should. Sure you write like us with a echoed through the size of Texas Jolly Green Giant should Wear shoes to do with the green of the I think. And sandals at the apple I I don't know we'll have Sean McDermott live from LA when we come back Mike show in the Bulldog here this is the Buffalo Bills radio network. What really goes emotion right side back to the play action fake funeral right fired short hopping it. In the buffalo territory for 31 o'clock. The court press now. Chaos in the auspicious does not begin to tell the story to describe the computer news. Said debut maybe that. Blissful. DiMarco the first one. Something to do beat and he gets hit on the next two. Replied that's you know that's gonna happen again does that tell you that's our new man. And after that I the last two New York he did he did the thing the fans want Tyrod Taylor to do more of let's just throw it may be put it up there and just throw it out there may have been cool. Errors and try. Five picks and a half. Will he ever be back. I'm really. Root out aren't inclined to say no way. But it's no I mean I don't know ever meet next week even. I'm inclined to think it's it's got to be Taylor not not because. I didn't endorse this decision I did what you due to. Total football team to run the got a bite interceptions and one that you know how you can possibly stand in what are your to him and say we're to start this guy again. There's so much you can do. What only stand or take questions from the media about it I adjust to discount retailer in the event. This year and however it's gonna and they don't want to be their quarterback. And this guy. It's possible but his move might Graham but this is our apple football and five interceptions the bulls will draft someone. They won't go into next year thinking heater that it is an option if he doesn't see the field again here and do something to. Race the taste of this out your often. Soul yeah I mean what is going to his head in wonder. What is going through everyone's head you know is. It is right. And it is an option to to point out here that Tyrod Taylor. Can still do the thing that we've talked about him doing for a lot of this season with respect to what they might do about next year. This year which is get them in. And then. They have a tall fir decision about whether to replace him right away can eject still have a can't buy any quarterback if you miss holly sixty points a week I I can't get a ticket at this hour fast enough that it. Just call mom go come on though is. Two weeks ago they played good jets and trailed in the fourth quarter 347. Last week big plate New Orleans and in the fourth quarter trailed 473. And today trailed 4710. And 5417. In each game they finished with a touchdown or two to close the gap. Still you're talking about. I mean 7080 point margin to defeat you know it'll be over these three weeks out and this is a team that was three and six. And they're not and not put me here and I'll blowing anyone out on the way to those three wins Stephen McGee's not it's. Yeah I mean there they are last week with the quarterback thing you know performs a table last week when you know that. It cost him his job or at least that was his last appearance before he got benched. To me the defense wants the bigger story in the game. Kazaa you're there you're not winning anything here against any one if you can't tackle people and stop some people. Without getting turnovers all over the place. And they are still I mean again this this this game script couldn't look a lot like last weeks inequities turnovers. Helped set. The charger result in your defense is in talks. And it's your turn it over your own three and out. But you don't have the couple possessions Peter remove on the field for what it wanted public many victories but a time there was three or four interception throw it. The completion and you can now could hole that's progress right. Not for your defense you're back on the field but still. Didn't run over that's not changing. Soul yeah I don't know put put Taylor input of an important web in Seattle Democrat at this point you are tackling anyone. Mears getting trounced here. It did not help the Kelvin Benjamin went out early grabbing the back of who's right the after what I mean the one the first very first few plays of this game. His knee has been a problem in the past. And I don't know I mean I wouldn't assume to release it would assume we get any sort of definitive word on him. When Strom Thurmond is where is ready to to talk to the media that should be any minute we're sort of coming out here until he is ready to go. But it did not help Benjamin Benjamin imparted a point here with Peterman. Certainly an argument a heard many times over from fans at least. Was he's gonna throw the ball on time and this is what you want and this is why you trade for Kelvin Benjamin he's a quarterback that is probably a better fit. For Kelvin Benjamin because it's a rhythm and he's big and he can post up DB isn't it you know you can get something out of him this way. And then he was gone right you don't you don't exactly that would all of that happens on that one boil it paid to quit dropped a quick hello and it's a thirteen or fifth or wherever you are daily. And Oates not here comes the part. Here comes the car he's not right away to come on the field agreement to leave their beds or not. So yeah I mean that and then that the DiMarco Ol play is right after that I think right there of the of the moon and each. It's him it's a blaze of fury after that completely I don't even know. What the hell happened it's just that there were some cadet runs I don't believe I don't know this is just was a mass. We roll out its Shawmut server right now he's ready. That's not the not the result we are hoping for that's my responsibility. And you get pushed through it right now. The Swiss least that's really as yet push through things like this and you know we'll go we'll go back to work holy land. Well wasn't what he had hoped for or are we had hoped for Muni. The same time night you know here when you put young player out there young quarterback that there's going to be some ups and now this is part of it and you know. The good part about it is an emotionally tough individual and he's good football players you know to me it's not indicative of who he is. As a player. That you know you can go through some this all all good players do. We. I'm gonna evaluate my value and take my time and evaluate. It was going to be happy news about start. Bombing make the decision actually to have this football thing. Yeah yeah. By halftime and I got together with the staff and and we evaluate things at halftime and and that's the decision and at that point. Your eyes. Well you know. Today that the game got away from us and heard and due to the turnovers and in part. You know that said it's there's areas we can give you better act in all areas you know and and that's offense we defense and special teams so. You know they were backed up early with some field position through the use turnovers in and so we go back and evaluate. Owners of our football team. Freedom quarterback grow certain. Potential options. Why switch. Or like me switched known. From the very people. Well this is about this is about. You know not only winning now but also the future and you know. From these guys work hard and you know I felt like like I do every decision that I'm making is in the right. And best interest in this football team and for. Guessing yourself. You worry about that. You don't just happen in the Boston crowd. Morgan. You never carry over in the. No I mean it's an only tough individual like ascendant and you go back and look at the history of games in a rookie quarterbacks there's going to be some highs and lows it's all part of it. That's all part of it and and you know the thing needs to noses we're going to be right here support and and that's important part of we stick together as a team. Or mutilate. And while he was into the game he was in the game he wanted to go back out there just like you'd expect all competitors to do wish natives. And you know he he he takes his job seriously and he's driven to succeed and he wants to be the best and so those traits. Are part of the reason why we drafted him and so. You know I stay confident in me and you know I know he's gonna learn from this experience and so we. Respond on outside. Well in his views he you know he is ready go just like you saw it came out with the offense did a good job. You know and so. You know he he he embraced it pretty good job. The swipe fee is they have a three game stretch as the bills you have had ever. For you begin your first years ahead coach and balancing a lot of different things including faith that you want players that have been your leadership. How concerned are you. Think these these three games and especially the way they want. Will impact that. Well that's a question for them. I know this and I'm confident this football team and and we're going through tough stretch right now teams all teams go through this you Crennel Lee this is as part of it. Very rarely. Friendly do you have a clean year we're here we are not in trying to manage some downturns and that's as part of it. You know look at a lot of people had us written off early in the year and to be where we are now I think I think for a lot of people it's. What did with a different than what they thought initially so we've got to manage this downturn right now. Steam only tough make the proper corrections and move forward. Alchemist I you do that how you keep everybody. Focused and where you want them to be including your yourself because this is kind of think shake once confidence. Sure I know you're going to know or color from that with that I've been on the other side of these of these situations a lot for my twenty plus year career in the NFL so. You know I've done too much to. And I'm too confident in this locker room and his coaches and his players to. To think otherwise you go you going to make the proper adjustments. And you go back and re teach and that's what we have to continue to do the game got away from us a little bit today in a hurry because of the because of the the turnovers and that's part of it. We've got to take care of the football and so. Within that with the go back and evaluate all three phases which will do. Still owner valuations and yeah. It back in the third. We just you know obviously you know keep that to myself I'm not really Jerry it to it's about moving the offense in and you know that's that's what I've got to look at. And can get a better feel for live from the office of coaches of what happened when it happened why it happened and and so. You know that's what you do. Looks over Iraq. You just move the ball way too if social. Well again like guys like a center yourself you know. You go back and say hey field position early field position early field position early and and that's that was the start of the sometimes things snowball when you're that at the situation so. I'm gonna go watch the film and evaluate. Every down but on defense just like I Willie offense and special teams. Workers likely will be. Right game you grew from schools and most. I understand life saying that you know again I felt like this was the right situation for me to come and play. And and so I like I said before I'd I don't regret my decision I regret the results that we get the result we're looking for. And so I don't regret your decision at all. You know you overestimated his greatness but. Nate Nate comes into work every day and he worked extremely hard he's gotten better every every day every week every opportunity he's had. He's handled the right way and so in the game got away from us today and like I said before when you have young players and we've played a lot of young players you guys see that. We've got a number of rookies on the field and included today. Among other players first you're second year players that's part of it they're gonna go through some ups and downs what's important how we teach. Through these ups and downs and how they learned like I said before this is. In part about winning now and it's also keeping an eye on the future winning in the future also. This is calculated risk that you made the move on. Was part of the calculation Howell the rest that he would react to it and if so. Is there any thought your mind it better play overall could be reflective of the team that didn't in its own way so support. It first supported the idea aluminum rookie. I'm out they were focused our players are focused they came out they were moving the ball you know on offense and and then we had a the plane that went off our hands and somebody else's hands and got return for a touchdown and that's where I'm from where I'm saying is. You know when you look at big picture of this football game again it's nowhere near the result that we that we hope for wanted to were prepared for. The game got away from listener hurry and you step back and look at it objectively look at. You know that's that's part of it so. But I thought our players are focused they were ready they worked hard during the week coaches worked hard. To you know just like we did all season long so our preparation. You know all that woman will not we are gonna change. Budget fitness and thirty points swingman how much was his injuries and going down Jordan Matthews. Actually. Two best receivers that. Think you know it doesn't help. Josh honestly doesn't help. All part of again if things get away from this rather quickly there that says it's never about one guy. So like you make a few aces. Console. You know we we got to continue to move forward. In all areas. And for those positive we we did run the ball auction I thought well at times and and hit some big runs and you know give credit to. Our offensive lineman in line coach in Rick Dennison that it. He came out came the way and had a good week of practice and identified some scenario we felt we could could run the ball. But they were more. Who. Here here it. You know I've got a lot of confidence in Tyrone I'm not gonna get into you know next year although I've got a lot of confidence and how about some things and. All right well mean by now I think we're used to McDermott at these press conferences when you lose 5444. You get a lot of this was not the result we were hoping for a that was not a matter of preparation and we tried really hard. And he would not even go as far as to say that the decision to start neat and Peterman. A fifth round pick in this years draft the quarterback taken. We're with a team that was in a playoff spot at the start of the day was regrettable. And he wouldn't even either say. You know and I debt this but who would start next week. To meet the notion that Biederman could start next week is unconscionable after today but you just can't. This team has gone from a good story at five into to a national joke. And in the quarterback change is why you have a team that you go well I guess they weren't that good okay that doesn't make you would joke you're joke. When you do that and you take a quarterback who's been in pro bowls out. And put a kid into wasn't even out great prospect he throws five picks and a half that's when your joke. They have done that. And the I don't understand this coach you want to criticize guys in public ring like that. Well it too bad because that was unbelievable what happened today there's no way he starts against the cheaters Jason. I cannot. Imagine. And I haven't you know like a lot of folks plenty of time as second of this game. Unfold in front of us. To think about this I just cannot envision a scenario where he is standing in front of his team. At any point this week. Telling them that they competed in is gonna start next week's game at Kansas City now I just cannot imagine. Him having the balls to do that. I just I don't know how you could possibly stand in front of those men and tell them we got to fight pits and in first half. Is going back I just can't believe. We will see it I didn't see this and calming last week to begin. So but there you know that going in OK what and so should my analysis from what it's worth maybe not much but just give up but we would tell those creepy guy. It's an old little backed him Yahoo! did see it coming. On this show last week we got a call or two from fans who said that should happen and we did what we tend to do. And kind of scoff at that and it did happen I called the idea insane you know what. After watching this game maybe it was. Much over the bulldogs your calls and a moment this is Buffalo Bills football. Well wasn't what he had hoped for or we had hoped for nearly. The same time like you know we hear from you pretty young player out there young quarterback that there's going to be some ups and now this is part of and you know. Good part about native and those who knows tough individual and and he's good football players to me it's not indicative of who used as a player. But you know you go through some. All all the players. Sean McDermott and Ethan Peter Wednesday it wasn't what he had hoped for or we had hoped for. He probably was beyond his worst nightmare of reporters through. Nobody has actually going through that in the last 55 years in the league match. Good or bad nobody has actually had five picks and a half and like no good place. Since the merger literally. It was incredible. I mean just. Picked it would for any team to have made this decision. On their starting quarterback. To this backup in particular a fifth round rookie. What would be it would be a story in the league right but for frost I mean were. Seventeen years. In the succeed five and four like I. Beats it was a bold move higher he said I didn't see it come in and it came and my gosh. I mean just. Put your fingers or your Adobe rice. And it was him that was a disaster. 377. At halftime. Against the chargers team that had not scored more than 47 and game and was three and six now. I mean RI I'm I'm ready to move on from Tyrod Taylor in the future. I don't see how he doesn't play the next game and admit just in just what ride this out now I just cannot. At all for for Albert McDermott sounds fairly noncommittal wants them reviewing all. I would've predicted that that's what he would say. I've heard the real surprise me if he were just definitive in the post game news conference and he you're already knows what he's gonna do but I mean he's gonna colony was gonna do. I just. Can not imagine a scenario where he stands in part of that team and tells them Peterman is playing in Kansas City a scant. After that mean it could've been if you've been bad. And you might still think you don't take wow that was. It was right any to be. With there's certainly a lot of debate last week any discussion about. What to do or whether this was right or anything like all that really a shot means really no point in any of them so bad. That there's no conversation there. About the rest of probable next week at least I don't but the rest of the season necessarily but next week at least and but this whole argument for that this was right. Mean because it was so terrible because of that the five picks and a half. It was always for me about because they were in a playoff spot I I know what you know we're real people think about the future of the position and everything but. Right now for this game they had two choices. Tyrod Taylor and even Biederman not Josh Rosen. Not Russell Wilson from the past like they had two choices. Taylor and Peterman and for this team at five and four to be moving for the future it doesn't wash he had to be on Taylor's level. What would you consider that to beat you could just generally settle for the the fairest way to do beyond the average performance in Taylor's career. Which is not prolific but it's also not sloppy. And so that would be like the standard for me is is is it about there it is well I think you got away with a again you can you can continue one. But there's nothing to talk about like that there is no conversation about that it didn't come close to that and there is no question. That Peter Mann was not. Ready for today not. Prepared for today. Not just because like he stayed up too late but just because. His game his ability ease and his experience all of it put together it was a tent there was a gaffe. From McDermott it was a terrible. All right misjudgment so now he's left with you know I would recognize our reluctance to go back to Taylor because you you are basically saying I blew it. Volume I I I've made the wrong call so based on this. Whole wages apple football I'm home back to the guy that last week I stood out here are told you. Wasn't good enough for us anymore me never actually set up editing that he was doing and who's telling you to it was a good enough anymore. So he's got to go back to him and that's embarrassing. But I think it's more embarrassing to be. To dig your heels in and be defiant about it and meet you you bullet it always umi to umi a mistake. And you want and yet you or your team better than that and you'd you'd you know. You may not feel great Taylor moving forward I don't but. You have to put him back I just don't see any other alternative. We'll get your calls in a moment 8030551. Needed eight by fifty to 551 more thing before we do. We will allow our network affiliates ten seconds right now for station identification here on the Buffalo Bills radio network NBC is showing the highlights was any charter interception like a good catch. Couple of the just like stayed in there in the ball falls out of a scholarship and that the the second to. When a fourth when the guy has to die a little bit weird but that the that the two where he gets hit. That the ball was floating in the air because you're used in his bathrobe when he's throwing it and he's got a helmet in his chest as he's getting rid of the ball so old that. Affects the flight of the ball the ball is Cecilia just like in the pop flies basically two defenders who were just don't look at us. Mile walk via. Here is David with us hi David. They I don't know. This I'll lead. You. Yeah update that you care. That aren't being easy to point out air will complete. I don't. The timing of the move that will you know only if you'd. Operate all comforted the latter isn't it hit it over in India worrisome for the future. Like it got that this guy BC like Rex Ryan but now the debate now you know the idea that an eagle league that we are lycra. You know that firstly and secondly is there are. Only old people that put that in your defense is old. So you're gonna need all the crap he's gotten better at. And it'll be ideal but buffalo. Tomorrow. Well that the timing point just seemed to me the have been waiting to get Tyrod Taylor off the field and they decided that. Sue Roth games in a row was justification for that. Was it. That that would have happened anyway well everybody wanted to say no we wanna give them some benefit of the doubt and like no that wouldn't have just happened automatically. It must be that. The back up the news good and all anybody was ever really able to do in any intelligent way was to take a wild guess as to whether he would be good sure. He played. A little bit. Against New Orleans in the equivalent of a pre season game and played in the pre season and he played college football so you have some working material but it would. You know it was never right to consider that sufficient you just have to hope. And trust that this coach who has gotten a lot of credit and one a lot of fans by his style and that's the player the team is here but he would know well enough. That you know you got to trust me on this and he beat probably Gary might have that very conversation with players got to trust me on this Ike I believe in Essen and one that takes a devastating block he takes yeah devastated but overstating it meets with one decision he's in his first year but. He. He he's he's gotta you gotta dig himself out of that. Because it is your you're supposed to trust the guy across the process right. I mean that that all just takes a massive massive broadside. And that that's why I cannot. Imagine. Even my wallet and go through the tape. And emit a baby maybe in the if I can imagine a scenario we're sitting there with his you know his skis snapple offensive people and well you know all we can block on up here he got hit on those two the first one was bad luck is that it was right to right to the fullback he should've caught it. And try to explain them away like idol maybe someone in the roots go for duty at five picks and a half c'mon. What are you really gonna stand up and putting your team in double b.'s and again how we'll do it. But you just have to fall back in goal yup my bad. I'd start ulcers to do. Right. Now right like I I considered it a real slight to Taylor that he was benched this week in the first place in the lot everybody agree with that. But I I I really felt that way. And there's a there's a comparison somewhere in my head to work out with Capra. But we're gonna hit the lease is gonna keep signing these lousy quarterbacks is proven to be lousy quarterbacks and pretend that the cap on the thing is in political. And like we're gonna go to. You know Nathan Biederman again next week and you know what we believe in Tyrod Taylor the coach I'm not about implying that the tyrant thing is political but we we've we've. I still a lot of cut the military today all I have a lot of confidence in Tyrod Taylor. Okay. How much exactly let's put him quantify some of the stuff we respect for everybody you're respect for all the players you respect all the teams. All the all the decisions. Postal speed real. How much respect you have for this guy. I bought. All summer that Taylor had impressed McDermott. And really want him over that McDermott was whipped the idea dealt with the idea of Taylor being his quarterback I bought that. First chance they got. Yank for a best. That's pretty credible here's robber with a us hi Robert. They were drawn out ballot I don't want least. Just hurry this up or I might call you all a part of the upper I'm not actually done it truly upset at the bill that like my colonel. Still wondering out. On the last few weeks you know I'm colonel became an outward and would that. He had spent the truck is obviously. On the return my call is Dorgan bench I agree with. Not all bought mutual are always gonna look ludicrous you know here are important playoff lit and the eat at that and then go to. But here's the thing. The picnic picture and I'd walk off hit this coach Reid who want. You that we don't even practice. Ever thought that that. Obviously knew that the actor. Are that he Iger know we don't but don't buy protection act which is an incredible. Here's the thing is you can't charge and how we believe in Iraq that. Well that'll be up to everybody to do it individually I'm not gonna sit around and assume that he's gonna get everything wrong. I never would assume he did everything right so I don't think his judgment in every way is compromised or you don't shot. But this was a tremendous. Mistake. And I would appreciate McDermott not acting like it wasn't. With all that all we know about how coaches don't want to criticize embarrass and I'm here as usual I'm here for the I'm here for let's be real I would appreciate it if he did not act like this was not a tremendous mistake. I'm not gonna get my hopes up I'm not gonna assume every call he's ever gonna make will be wrong. It was wrong to assume every call he would ever make will be right if anybody did that. This was a disaster. And let's let's act like we're gonna go to. Who's to sneaky Joseph okay Jody B Aussie Joseph might not appreciate being called that. And it is because I haven't really discussed it with Joseph or anything with Joseph ever I don't nicknames are cool. All right Joseph with the updated in more of the posting at. I know total send it back to acai I hope. That you might Buffalo Bills lose their third straight game again by a huge margin final score today chargers 54. Bills 24 all week the big story was neat in Peter rim getting his first career NFL start. He restarted with a nice third Kelvin Benjamin that's where the bad news began Benjamin went down holding his knee he was carted to the locker room and quickly was ruled out. For the game that doesn't bode well for his status going forward almost immediately after Peter interests first career interception. People leery goes in motion right side back to the play action fake funeral might find short often. In the buffalo territory dirty. For a touchdown. The bills did respond quickly you Shawn McCoy broke loose on two big runs the later tied the game. Peter me. And to top ten in the point. And Georgian territory at the forty. Stops and starts inside the through. What's on the on the court that we. Annual clinic run and now. How big Gator hurt but Shawn McCoy. McCoy what the bright spot for the bills thirteen carries for 114 yards of rushing touchdown. And receiving touchdown however got worse for Peter may and he threw three interceptions in the first quarter as chargers pulled away Peter and continued to make mistakes he finishes six of fourteen. 66 yards and five interceptions all in the first half. Tyrod Taylor played the entire second half yet just. Just under 200 total yards and two touchdowns John McDermott would not say we'll start next week he says he's he will evaluate the position. The defense again they had a poor performance think about forty points in just over 400 yards in other than Benjamin Micah Hyde also left the game with injury. No update on him just yet. Next up for the bills at the six and four Kansas City Chiefs next Sunday. On the NFL scoreboard starting with the chiefs they fell to the now to what eight giants twelve to nine in OT. Baltimore ties the bills in the standings with a shutout win at Lambeau Field in Green Bay Cincinnati holds off the Broncos. Twenty to seventeen Denver has now lost six games in a row. The vikings improved to 82 with a impressive 24/7 win over the LA rams and the dolphins dropped to four and six when they lost to Tampa Bay. This bill's game wrap up has brought you by independent health and your every date your unexpected independent health Richards are here to help. For the Buffalo Bills for your network and Judy the Osce Mike back to you. Thank you Joseph. 54. Or what 24 point four if you've worked only 24 team. Former 24 not worse than last week. We split a variety last week was 47747. Time we 710. This game was at one time 4710 I'm wondering if it's the first time a team has played back to back games when they were losing 47 to ten in the NFL. Much over the Bulldog with mortar calls it a moment this is Buffalo Bills put. Ball. That's appears certainly before and you know there's always says whose religion and learn and definitely beef. Mom might say moved forward on them learn a lot from this and mission. America needs of Peter and he's going to be talking about all over national sport shows here in the coming days. It's Thanksgiving Thursday so maybe just in the coming day I don't know. It's one of the worst starting quarterbacks that lines ever seen in the NFL the record for interceptions in the game his feet. Bulldog you were there. Oil it was. At Comiskey Park mature in 1950 yep I grew up there. The Eagles 45 the cardinals seven the Chicago cardinals. And cardinals quarterback Jim Hardy. Was twelve for 39193. Touchdowns and eight picks after that game I burned my party Jersey. You did there had posted it on and was or even a number rotted in those days let alone a name known name bubbles 08. So hates the record Joseph Ferguson. Through six for the bills and game once in 1974. Through five in game three other times. Scott Tommy O'Donnell 1960 Tom florists through the raiders Super Bowl winning coach later in his career. Now is in the breeders' Booth I believe. 1967. These quarterbacks threw five interceptions and gain for the bills so to effort today neat and Peter Main who only played a half and it was Tuesday view of course as a starter. Wall. The bills are tied in other news for the sixth seed in the AFC playoff race with Baltimore. Which one in Green Bay today shut out win. Bills that chiefs' next week the chiefs lost to the giants today in our six and four after starting five and oh. So they're not feeling too differently than you do differently. The giants get to play the beatles' hello well. And Ed Ed everybody's getting their points now. I mean I just. I do not want to take attention away at all from the decision. And Durbin made to put Peter Meehan in this spot in the fight it first happened exceptions I mean it is just incredible that went that portly. And you just cannot. Beat even the most the that in the harshest. Person predicting. How bad this could go would not have. I can predicted interceptions and a couple bullets it's apple. Put this defense is not stop being in need buggy right now anybody or any thing right one run you wanna pass. It. Soul I mean. The GM that would chief scored nine points on three field goals today losing in overtime to the giants who are inept. But I don't know Jim would you bet against them getting to thirty next week. The chiefs forty. But worse stop. Well it's the NFL and you can't do that but I know why you want to. Thirties three weeks ago 42 weeks ago fifties they are they gonna get the sixty. There was the first 5424. Game in NFL history. For the final score. Here is John with us on the post game show hello John. It guys they expect might Alter. So I think it sort of promote the greater smoked a bill for government it. Airing and at least a playoff route mentioned Tyrod Taylor when you're five and four blocks in a playoff spot and you start a this round rookie quarterback. Like are you kidding me up now Taylor has limits obviously. But I mean it's clear that appear and what they're ready. I mean it's crossed the process experiment over and over and over again but you know life the only process that McDermott. There's outside results for the proper supplementation. Thanks art school John. A turn of phrase. For the listeners there from John. Get a hold on. I'd I'd I'd I thought process of elimination process of elimination of OK that's the control room is very excited about that I'd I'd have to strides there was somebody else. No no no I would like so similar that I imagine the process of elimination I really enjoyed that knows some. And I didn't like I guess that makes as you celebrate its opening game happening right now right I got editing overlay from my game right. I think there's people right here the years of experience with this show. The the tree the changes to words and think it's usually returning last week got a guy who thought it was clever to call Tyrod Taylor Taylor Nim Rod Taylor like it's usually name calling and all her stupidity. Here at least the guy goes. Process of elimination but that's not a banner headlight. If you were a newspaper headline writer. It's a long work for a moment on our Morgan and peas for the web for a number of minutes. Change not on board Chris right now I have a swear word in there and I don't think I want appalled that. First orders cluster. As I think that it had a dirt. Got to be some editing room. Your word elimination both eleven letters so is that it's not gonna be a question of throwing. Doctors here is bath with a solo bath. Okay no bath let's go to John an excellent job. Yeah. John and the last game. That court is gonna fire the itself so coordinator. And they opt out so coordinator because. If reggae they can figure out how to stop somebody at the end of that. App. Who works. Terrible. Secondly. My other point is it would cool we're excited to. Gator man. And this or that absurd. But why vehicle out. Although he on this Sunday and they have to everybody. That the silent like I like guys my guys Monday. Like guys like quarterback. Then why would you come out on Tuesday. Until LA. Alluded quarterback's going to be. If you can't you can't hide that all week. The U you're going to be asked to talk about your offense. And that a deployed games what it is it's just so how it's done it's just it's just not how it's on you there's some advantage to be gained. You think Peter has a better chance of succeeding today if they keep this a secret or something because I mean c'mon. Yeah I don't like Nick Diaz go to a very great. Yeah exactly. Let the excuses start I guess I can't think of a time I've ever heard of this in the NFL. Maybe you can John you can think of one example. Of a team that did that with its quarterback ever wanted to reach healthy anyway can you can you actually do that no right. Either still talking to. I can't remember ever. Anybody doing that. There's a lot of media you may have noticed a lot of attention on these teams usually doesn't work a coach can look. Bad if it gets out and he's hiding it your your first question is a different question why did eat. Say what he said about Taylor Sunday and Monday and I that's a that's a reasonable question my answer is because McDermott doesn't know what no other way to talk. He's only way of talking even tonight is we tried I I think everybody put the work in everybody's grainy. Everybody. Was prepared. The vets he doesn't know another way to talk so I assumed he had it in his mind at least by Monday. But Taylor would be replaced he made the decision known to Peterman on Tuesday but we talked to a live on Monday and he didn't sound like that at all. So no they they want teams want a control their message and they wanna they wanna do with their way. And for them that was going to be Wednesday morning announcing this move. And it's not even really necessarily. Important. That he talks Taylor up the way that he did on Monday. I think Taylor deserves some credit for playing the game that I. You know I had it in my mind and I I wonder if some of his fans did too like he should just say screw you I'm not gonna. That little there would be amazing if that happened in the NFL he wasn't to be expected. But he might have been really bitter when he went there and he he played hard and you've gotten you gut. Stole from five Tyrod Taylor in the second half that. So. You know not the kind of thing I'm usually looking to give guys credit for but he did do that. Let's see we have time now excellent time. And I got you are right. Our oh I don't need I don't demand at the mortgage on him and I want to make this point you know me. You know came out or secure calling them bureau I never. All I ticket it like it's really quite poignant now. Bit of light. You when they're not involved right now OK and you stop the fact that idol. I don't know why I'd like I'd like yours if it's quarterback but the syndicate me is that they other. Why has structure of their offense amassed my Tyrod Taylor. Aren't. Right no that's right right from the start it means is that the hiring of Dennis in for for for a certain kind of fan and certainly some medio we analyze this kind of stuff. There was a connection to Baltimore. But that this is the larger story was he runs an offense that seems at odds with Taylor skill set. And there were there were troubling signs almost right away. That that would be the case. And still got some good games out of Taylor that mostly wore him just. Making plays. Spinning away like not not really executing the offense that has drawn up which probably did in Europe the coaches. But still they made plays and they had success but no I never was fit and invade furthermore we're never know. Gonna try to structure this thing. And and build an offense around Taylor's. Attributes. Otherwise she would he would have never ever go away from the overburden moved in over read option. Four for example that. It was never. Yeah and that is that is controversial I think but not surprising. Taylor will probably find that were never happened storm in the future in the league is that. What what what they wanted routines wanna do is commit to a guy in the bills have been terrible committing to him they just and in awed and there's still. Bouncing all round with him on the roster almost to the point of embarrassment. Today it was embarrassing. But you know is they're gonna be in a team it's like OK this guy is good enough for Warren built around him and try to win with them I don't know what question that could have happened and it didn't happen. And I guess I would predict not Tyrod brought Resop. Before he was special to comment that made the rounds last week but he would meet it before he was benched but there there's a talk for standard for me and that's part of it. There's there's a certain skill set that. Some quarterbacks play fast. Not the big armed not a big guy and you need in the NFL you need a coach to commit to that and try to work with that and most these coaches who get over these jobs don't. Call from that they don't. Want to do that there. Their careers are on the line every year assistant coaches and they know what they know in this coach it was gonna be wrong in West Coast and if Tyrod Taylor's the quarterback of the bills. I'll do the best I can't. And as soon as they got a chance take amounted to about here we are now five and five after. A beat down today. Much over the bulldogs here on the post game show is. This part of it anyway I brought you by independent health from your every day you run expected independent helps Red Shirts are here to help. Back with mortar phone calls in a moment this is the Buffalo Bills radio network. The buffalo. Bills lose their third straight game again by huge margins final score today chargers 54. Bill's point for all we big story was neat and Peter and would get his first career. NFL start Peter and start of a being nice throw. Kelvin Benjamin but that's where the bad news began Batman went down holding his knee he was carted off to the locker room and quickly was ruled out. For the games that does not bode well. For his status going forward almost immediately after Peerman through his first career interception. People leery goes in motion right side back to the play action fake funeral. All right fired short popping. In the buffalo territory the thirty. The bills did respond quickly to Shawn McCoy broke loose on two big runs the latter tied the game Bittermann. And to top ten point three. What's on the applied got Lou. You'll find that brought him down a dictator park but struck a boy. McCoy was a bright spot for the bills thirteen carries for a 114 yards rushing touchdown and also added a receiving touchdown however got worse for Peerman. He threw five interceptions in the first half. He finishes six of 1466. Yards. And five interceptions all in the first half tyra Taylor played the entire second half. Yet just under 200 total yards and two touchdowns. The defense again they had a poor performance they gave up forty points in just over 400 yards to the chargers and other than Benjamin Micah Hyde also left the game with an injury no update on him. Just yet. Next up to six and four Kansas City Chiefs next Sunday and speaking of the chiefs they felt today to an out to an eight New York Giants twelve to nine. In overtime and elsewhere around the NFL Baltimore ties the bills in the standings we shut out win 23 to nothing. In green bay saint stretched their win streak to eight with a comeback overtime win over the Redskins the patriots throttled the raiders 338. And the dolphins dropped to four and six when he lost to Tampa Bay. This update is part two by north tower automotive north tower automotive sales service and selection to the nth degree. For the Buffalo Bills radio network I'm Jody B Osce. Went in the sand. The stampede and it looks steps up fires another went down about cypress point is intercepted this one is picked up by Trevor what it sounded far sidelines. And he goes down about 47 yard line I could get worse. Would have been the best ones that would fit so we didn't. Get worse interception wise after that after all. Five interceptions and a half a historically. Unfortunate performance. From me in Peterman in his first NFL start. The bills are five and five after being five in two. This week they bench or starting quarterback who replaced him with a rookie who threw five picks and a half. And lost 54 to 24 it's another new. Moment in bills history and drought history this is the ticket here since they've been to the playoffs and there's not a day like this. No that's why I mean you don't have. There there have been other moments where it redeem. The waiting game unfolds. Mistakes that are made him a Dallas Monday night game for 2007 in the comes to mind where real frustration. And you just can't you just can't. Believe what you're watching it. And so there's this yelling and bingo heads off walls. Literally in here by me but that I met on that night against that tells him but this. It to be in the spot they were and it had a surprisingly good season to make the move. And then so whatever anticipation you'd after the game even if you didn't like boom boom. But it's easy I think undeniable you do like the curiosity factor is off the charts here. You know I wouldn't on this I didn't need him to do this but he did it so what does this kid got the game is gonna star Michael K. Even George won't run away but. After error two picks it's still 77. Protect and seven were aware that it's not where you're you're you're not bleeding out yet it's it's okay. Right and if you don't like OK that was a world star bought. I'm on a life well what's well. And is it just got would comically disastrous Tibet. It it it feels like oh what a low point in in it in a drought that's full of nothing but old points. To have that scenario one pool what that just oh gosh. That was it's different than a disastrous. And being where you can't believe they lost the game. Because you know or plausible there's no drama in it. What it was surreal watching that first half. Much over the Bulldog here on the post game show 8030552. Were reach us let's go to George next hi George. They have all that went Pallet I haven't seen any November collapsed but cook and Hillary Clinton are now. 888 but I just wanna say eight people it's fitting that the game was played at. Stub hub center because Peter men had a chance to. Show is meant what today. OK it's just comedy hours thanks George from Lima thanking you. Here's Chris snacks like Chris. He has yet to own hole and try to recover. Yeah and so Miami and now I'm actually down in Florida watching the game and down here that you will look Tampa Bay and Miami. Kabul. And I don't wait I didn't treat three hours. Too okay he I'm sorry we can't have that. Let's listen in any computer man who opened regimes like a good idea doesn't swear and his and hammered. I don't mean to imply at all that he would have been clutch right about America George sheer. Peterman. That's a finish certainly before and you know there's always says who never lose we learn and you know that'll definitely be. My mindset move forward I'm gonna learn a lot from this and make sure it never happens again. I'm always trying to be ready you know so. Pairs much as I can do in a week. And you know try to go off their helmets England. I think again you know I'm I'm prepared. Watch you know them all we can that we see that the guys can do out there and you know it's talented obviously the hole I felt town and so NFL like us you know prepared instead played better. I. I. Can turn. Yeah I mean it was you know again and played very well you know and those things start to happen you know I got to just be able letting go and yeah I if for a lot of them myself. All all. Four career. And really just trusting god honestly. You know you. Really don't understand why things happen where they do sometimes. But. You know I've got to trust and plan higher power and I think he you know my relationship. Helped me a lot that. Yeah me we're seeing these you in the first apple fans were chanting we Tyrod what that means you have. Yeah. And a lot I mean really throughout the whole game. Guys you know all over the team are saying things that encouraging things and you know. Saying that day I mean you're you're gonna learn from this and some other stories too so definitely helpful we got a great team here. Luggage teammates. You know moment or play even that you really like where you felt. Good about what you do. Yeah I mean you know from the start good obviously felt very confident going into a game. And things got away from us. Play next week we tell them it is. Shot. You know definitely justice and airman and his decisions. You know I'm gonna go again go back and learn from this much I can and be ready for whatever happened. This. Yeah very disappointing obviously. Think anybody go through this would be disappointed his means a lot to you you know you do. A lot of work a lot of time and energy and trying to go out there and went you know in and help your team mystique and so. Is that it's but again I'm gonna learn from this and I was strong fourth in its second quarter Q did you feel at all. Shell shocked just. Successive. Yeah. You know surprising but again I'm gonna learn from it and I can't say that enough obviously. Then things don't. I've never experienced something like this probably I'm so you know this is good learning for me. Under a lot of you know I thorough lot of good job you know and they're great teammates again. So you guys got to find ways to help our team you know putting in better positions to went. Is that the team of 45 important players but. Are you concerned at all I'll tell you didn't think. Him. I don't know you know I've got a lot of good feedback I'm in terms of encouragement from guys. And I will say that I think this is very strong team together and as we talk realize its is a test of how long team will stay together for the longest you know and down. I think a great teammates and I think we're also gonna learn from this and Congo and try to accomplish our goals. You'll definitely found some things. Here injuries and the house. Preserve you know I think those those great you know the other two play series were restored touchdown and time again yo line running back goes on doing great job and on the conduct of an and other great job as well so Yahoo! there's some things that bodes well. Second it. This is just throwing out there. Yeah I mean they're planeload coverage or figure shot. Kind of you know got hit I think at the same time and and get to get everything I wanted to answer it. So tough break. Nathan Peter men's six completions five interceptions. 5424. Chargers the locker room report brought to you by like storage tour life story with care. The rare 4 o'clock eastern start for us that means were talking during this on the night game. And it's Eagles six cowboys three early only six minutes into the game the cowboys. Got a big return of the opening kickoff kick a field goal Philadelphia went right on the field. And scored a touchdown which is being reviewed gather review embassy and that may come back. What is he was doubtful for the ball I'm going to be second and inches if it does it. Back with more the post game showed axis is the Buffalo Bills radio network. Well obviously it's not the way drew it up virgin did in his mind but. You have the same time you know he's got a haven't done a tremendous amount of mental tough this come back to me that's a tough outing but. He's a talented guy he knows the game he'll be okay and we're just encouraging you know I work your way through it the way that we're all doing right now. And you know just continue to grind there's a whole lot of football left in this season enough especially for him in his career. Kyle Williams and the bills. Kyle Williams has been through a lot of these some of these. Beat downs hopeful seasons there turned. Dark. This one not over. The phils have six games to go to against New England. Which is rolling again as usual. At Kansas City next week for a month or more of the chiefs were the seeming class of the league. Now they are really struggling I watched I watched everything today there are game at the giants was a weird one very windy. Alex Smith who goes not throw interceptions through three. Think it was three you know one Q3 with two Kelsey to one. And OK so Smith had a third one on their last drive of regulation that was overturned there was no lag okay. Mr. Kelsey through one. 992 overtime chief spawn in the giants' drive in when. So they're probably gripping. I would think they're gripping the day you get to play this bills' defense. And the bills defense is not stopping. In. The body. They're not getting cooperation from our offense. Or record five interceptions in the first half today. And I've beaten anybody predicted that d.s just mass that's right but you want a positive us spend. Not really hurt report. Tough question asked meter putt. One deposited sure. I have to tell you don't know what it wants. The Nathan Peterman experiment. Ended. Fast. I think it almost has to be over unless Tyrod Taylor is hurt. I would be surprised orally when they get eliminated if they keep losing measure than maybe Peerman employees to get overweight seasonal breath but. You know. Likely is scenario is that when a couple along the way here maybe even stay in the race. And then that's it for Nathan Biederman and I don't have to wonder about him you know I appreciate. And I want to be able sensitive to the point that Williams is making in the coaches making that the guy I mean obviously it's a terrible day. And thankfully for his sake killed you know be able to handle well. But it's. I don't have to like this this this game had they lost it. Forty to ten. And Peter Grimm doesn't throw any interceptions but he also doesn't. Do very much. Positive either just there Newton the bills don't get any offense relief. And the chargers are scalable more and they lose the BP German season he probably does and I just the likely a scenario with this one is. He would not be as good as Tyrod Taylor from where he was draft that he probably would not be as good as Tyrod Taylor this all say it is this way. I don't have to if you will please allow me to say there's one word suffer like Iran if deported out there and just wonder and ask questions and sort of argue about Tyrod that's all done this team is gonna go to Kansas City Tyrod Taylor is going to be their quarterback and he's won games for them so maybe they don't have what it. Awful taste in the mouth it'll be he would be stunning if any other thing I mean we've you know McDermott was noncommittal. That's predictable I would predict that tomorrow. He will tell every one when he meets with the media amendment some of those in the afternoon that he's going back to Tyrod Taylor I just cannot imagine him standing in front of this team. And telling them he's putting Peter and I think it would just be blindly stubborn. And five interceptions and a half yes the first woman often DiMarco yes they can block better he got it onto it. He just I don't see how you can roll my. Eyes. Just I just can't I can't match. Anybody not in the buffalo area with a taste for this kind of programming can join us tomorrow afternoon will be talking about today's game. From 3 to 6 eastern before sabres hockey. And listening now we'll have neat hearing along with Ryan gates with our overtime post game coverage but. This show were doing is over much over the bulldogs face glistening this is Buffalo Bills football.